Depicting the prophet Mohammed

23 04 2010

Manuscript in the Metropolitan collection

So, in deference to the joy, art, freedom supressing, dreary, dull, intolerant and homicidal fanatics of Islam, (a minority, by all accounts, but supported by the majority of muslims who will not stop them or hinder them in any way) the exhibition about Islamic art in the metropolitan museum in New york has removed all items which show the prophet Mohammed.
That is cowardly, and irresponsible and also falsifying history.
‘Cause I have news for you: Islamic artists have depicted Mohammed in art since the very beginning, and where ever muslims had books or art made.

Yes, this may come as a surprise, but there have been times when islamic countries actually had books printed, artists painting, musicians composing, and poets writing. And as Islamic countries were mostly muslim a lot of all this artistic effort went towards Islamic subjects, including depicting the prophet Mohammed.
Now of course Mohammed has been depicted for hundreds of years in Europe, but, as the artworks show, for even longer in Islamic countries, and by Muslims.

Now the reasons the muslims want to erase this fact from history (as they erase everything else they don’t like from history, including for example ancient Buddah statues) is that they want to claim that everybody, especially western cartoonists, must and should be murdered for doing so because the prophet must never, and has never been, depicted in paint.

Yeah right.

Enjoy a small selection of Islamic art depicting the prophet Mohammed:

Mohammed leaving for the battle of Badr

Mohammed in heaven with pretty women

Mohammed giving a sermon

Mohammed and Jibril

Young Mohammed recognised by the monk Bahira

Solving the dispute at the kaaba

witnessing a beheading

Surrender of the Banu Nadir

The prophet and his companions

Nineteenth centure Algerian postcard

Nineteenth century book illustration

Contemporary mural

Portrait of Imam Ali, modern

Now of course the modern maniacs and art-haters have their ancestors in the past too, which results in weird depictions of Mohammed with his face veiled. Some were painted this way, but many of those paintings had the face scratched out much later, and either left empty, or a veil painted across.
I don’t know, but that feels rather insulting to me…

What I find interesting is that many of the paintings of Mohammed, and family, companions, show them with an aureole, or their heads in flames. Just like Christian saints or the Holy Spirit.
I always find these kind of cross-cultural-, and in this case cross-religious details very interesting.

17th century Iran

Mohammed splitting the moon

Mohammed and family members

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69 responses

23 04 2010
aerinndis

There is no verse in the Quraan forbidding the depiction of Mohammed persรฉ.
The rule not to do so was made up by scholars who were afraid that such things might lead to worshipping Mohammed as more than just a man and therefore it should be forbidden.

\as if mohammed is NOT worshipped like a god today by the sunnis!
As if calling for blood and murder because in some foreign country somebody makes a drawing of mohammed is not indicative of worshipping him like a god.
The sunnis are just as bad in the worshipping of mohammed as a god as the shiat are.
The shiat make loads of paintings and drawings of mohammed until today! The modern ones you showed are shiat.
the sunnis do not like to be reminded that there are millions shiat who think very differently and have different rules.

and european artists have made drawings and paintings about moahammed for hundreds of years as well! Never has been a problem until recently.
It is the wahabbi sickness from saudi which is poisoning the whole world now!
And you are right, it is a belief system of primitive humans who have knowlege or feeling for art.
And not even for civilisation.
the wahabbis from the desert are from a stock of people who have very little, who lived in very poor conditions until oil. They have very little culture and are very suspicious of it anyway. Their issues are that they want to destroy beauty and happiness and freedom wherever they can.
And they are doing very well because they can even scare western publishers and musea into not showing anything which might ”offend”.

Sorry to write such a long comment.

7 02 2013
not my name

Firstly the main thing you said is Muslims idolize Mohammed but yet this is shirk in Islam we don’t allow this what do you mean Sunni Muslims don’t make a division over Muslims. We don’t idolize him like a god he is just very highly respect him because he show a model of how to live your life, how to be a ruler, how to be a respectful husband and how to be a good wife, how to eat, sleep,drink, enter bath room and many other things. also just saying read yusef Islam translation if you don’t know how to understand Arabic.

7 02 2013
Aafke-Art

But Many Muslims adolize many things, one is Mohammed. The other is the Holy Hijab and the Holy Hymen. And one friend wastold off because she used one of her abayas as part of a halloween decoration, so apparently the abaya is also to holy. And the Quran is holy, has to be placed above other books, may not be touched by an infidel or a menstruating woman. Now not all Muslims have the same idols, But in the case of Mohammed I would certainly consider the vast majority of Muslims being guilty of shirk.

And I would not advise the Yusuf Ali translation as he softens some words to make Islam more palatable to Western readers, which is bidah. I think Pickthal is the most truthful.

23 04 2010
aerinndis

who have NO knowlege or feeling for art.

23 04 2010
MoQ

@aerinndis,

I agree, Mohammad was not directly identified as divine in Islam. However, he was idolized/gave himself idol status. Here are some of the reasons he can be viewed as an idol:

– Any time you say his name it is Sunnah and in practice, as used in the great majority of times, to say “sala allah aleeh wa salam”. That is translated as Allah Prayed onto him and greeted him with peace.
– Mohammad’s name has to be repeated in prayer rituals. That is a minimum of 20 times a day if you include all the prayer references alone. Only a person that wanted to be idolized can have enough ego to require followers (in the billions now) to say his name that many times a day.
– Mohammad is the only man that can intercede for a Muslim with Allah, this includes the after life and also in hadiths where Mohammad interceded in behalf of people to ask for healing.
– Mohammad is supposed to be loved by Muslims more than themselves, mother, father, children and positions. Now loving a man that died 1400 years ago to this level is akin to idolizing him.

It is no wonder Muslims get insulted and show extreme reaction anytime they think the prophet is being attacked or mocked.

I also agree that there is no specific instructions not to make images of the prophet, his family or followers. That was added centuries later. All the references used are directed at banning all images not specific to any specific group or person.

24 04 2010
Lat

The paintings are so beautiful! Again you’ve opened my eyes to artistisc treasure of past centuries(prophet pics in pariticular) in the ME! I just hope that muslims are more tolerant and don’t get fired up to do nasty things everytime something of this sort of depiction comes up. If only situations were different….

24 04 2010
susanne430

Cool pics! I like being able to visualize Muhammad and his days on earth — and heaven. I notice the pretty women don’t have a problem with showing a bit of cleavage. Yikes – the beheading picture. I see the man in the moon!

MoQ, interesting facts! Thanks for adding those. I agree it’s strange how the Muslims worship Mohammad since they always mock us for doing the same about Jesus. “Us” meaning Christians, of course. ๐Ÿ™‚

19 01 2014
Salma Arafa

We don’t worship mohamed, we follow mohamed and all the profits but we worship god..only god!

19 01 2014
Aafke-Art

Exactely, so it doesn’t matter whether somebody draws Mohammed or not, he was just a man.

24 04 2010
Aafke-Art

Stw, Thank you for the information. I left the European bits out because I wanted to emphasise the fact that muslims have been painting the prophet for many centuries, and the claim that it is absolutely forbidden, and that is has , is and never will be done, is incorrect.
But thank you for the long (!) comment! ๐Ÿ™‚

MoQ, Thank you for another long (!) A informative comment!

Lat, thank for your lovely comment. It is good to know that muslims can aso enjoy these paintings rather than get riled up about them.
I think the beauty of these paintings show the spirituallity of the makers. Why should that be bad? or even insulting???
I found most pictures i think of Mohammed on the buraq, but one of my favorite stories is hiding in the cave with the spidersweb in fron of the entrance.

Susanne, it;s heaven! Everything is allowed! Drinking alcohol, wearing gold and silk, and showing lots of cleavage!
Actually that is an advantage I have never considered before… ๐Ÿ˜ˆ

Yes, I think muslims worship many idolatrous things like catholics, or other religions who have holy objects. The image of the prophet (in that case NOT ALLOWED!!!!) the hijab, every copy of the Quran, or bit of wrting of the quran, or anything which may or may not look like the name of Allah, even if it’s on a fish, the shayla, the abaya and niqab, all objects which some muslims insist should be treated as holy idols, etc etc.

24 04 2010
Achelois

Very beautiful pictures. You are a rebel, aren’t you?! ๐Ÿ˜€ You put them on your blog for posterity!

BTW, I don’t know how many angry Muslims know about this art depiction – http://neveryetmelted.com/wp-images/AngelMohammed1.jpg

This I would say is disgusting and in terrible taste which upset me a lot. The pictures you have posted are beautiful.

25 04 2010
Lat

@Achelois,

The link you showed,Is someone( prophet?) being trampled upon with a book?! ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

I just hope there aren’t equally disgusting art like that in muslim countries portraying other religious personalities.

25 04 2010
Achelois

Lat, linked picture is of the Church of Our Dear Lady in Dendermonde. The sculpture was made in the 17th century as a pulpit by Mattheus van Beveren. The pulpit is held by angels who are stepping on the back of the Prophet who is leaning on the Quran.

It is disgusting! Apparently most Muslims don’t know about it.

25 04 2010
Aafke-Art

And now the secret is out aand they are going to protest for the death of an eighteenth century woodcarver.

I didn’t know this one.
Although this piece is extreme, the subjedct, Christianity victorious over islam, is quite common in religious art of this period. You see turkey, an islamic country, had been doing quite well for many years taking over Christian countries by war. and had been at the Eastern part of Europe for many centuries. (Remember count Dracula? Got his fame (in life) for fighting the Turks) Anyway, they were actually invading Austria, and on the verge of taking vienna, when they were beaten back, and the whole of Europe took a deep breath, and there was a lot of religious art made of Christianity victorious over Islam.
This is often when Mary is standing on a crescent moon. But then depictions of Mary on the crescent moon are much older than that, and often the crescent moon was a symbol of vertility, or as a sign of the apocalipse, (a passage of the Revelation, “A woman clothed with the sun, having the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars.” Hence the radiance of the sun above her head, and the crescent moon beneath her feet.) or the sun and the crescent moon together, the moon symbolising the old testament, and Mary bringing forth the hope for the future, jesus, the sun lighting the future.
Mary standing on a crescent moon can also symbolise her glory and victory over time and space..

All quite complicated…

25 04 2010
cairolusakaamsterdam

Thank you so much for posting those beautiful pictures! As a Muslim I don’t really understand why it is “haram” to depict the Prophet…it certainly isn’t from the Qur’an.

However I wouldn’t be so quick to say that the majority of Muslims support the minority of extremists just because we don’t stop them. In my experience, most Muslims are very clear in their day-to-day life in renouncing terrorism, and so are many known Muslim personalities. However, the media isn’t always so quick to show those voices – wonder why? That said, I do agree that the majority need to do more – but that doesn’t mean we don’t do anything, and it also isn’t nice to hear that we support the extremist minority indirectly.

26 04 2010
Aafke-Art

Cairolusakaamsterdam, There is a basic injuction in Islam not to depict any living creatures. But to apply this specifically on the prophet alone, or the prophet and his family, sound more like the Christian injuction not to depict God.
It is clear that religions borrow a lot from each other and I think this distinction has been borrowed from Christianity and has been applied to Islam in later times.

I stand by my opinion that the famous ”majority of moderate muslims” does support the fanatic evil murderous minority. I know that mosques collect money which is then send to these groups. Now the congregation doesn’t know that, but they are not allowed to inquire where the money is going to either. A friend of mine did so at the mosque and was put down big time. So the msulims take no account of what happens with their money.
They have a responsibility to make sure their money really goes to charity cases and not to extremists and they don’t do so.

Also the majority of muslims do not stand up to the honour killing of women, the selling of underage girls to old men, the death threats to people who are wholly unconnected to Islam in other far away countries because they do or so or write something muslims don’t like, etc. etc.

There are many media which are exclusively controlled by Muslims and you don’t the the ”silent peaceful majority” represented there either.
You don’t see protest marches against injustice and extremism.
The only protests in the Musim media against evil done by muslims is done couragious journalists, who are then often told not to write anything like that again, or get fired, or are forbidden to publish anywhere at all.

So I stand by my opinion. For whatever reason, lazyness, fear, unconcern for the pain and suffering of others, or because they concur with the extremists calling for death and blood, the result is that the Ummah is condoning and supporting Muslim extremism, and thereby deserves to take their part in the blame.

8 05 2010
Aicha

I just came across this post and am not sure if you are muslim. But if you are, why do you show so many pictures with ‘living creatures’ although it is clearly forbidden in islam. Crearly written in several authentic hadiths, if you every try to read. Just because it is not written in the Quran doesn’t mean it is not forbidden because it doesn’t explain every single thing that happens in our daily lives obviously. We also need to follow the Sunnah to be rightly guided.
The rule is certainly not limited to the prophet saw as you wrote, but a lot of people make mistakes. Muslims are not perfect – far from it. So a few muslims went ahead and draw the Prophet – so the blame goes on to the entire muslim? … good on you to point out that we shouldn’t worship ANY prophets as God as this is the basic creed in islam (Tawheed). But I suggest you kindly remove these pictures coz you could’ve made your point without them. May Allah guide you.

9 05 2010
MoQ

@Aafke,

Please, listen to Aicha and remove the these pictures. The Muslims that do not like them are highly sensitive creatures. We have seen their sensitive kind nature, when the Danish cartoons were published.

You are also not taking into account that your thoughts and ideas are inferior to their beliefs. Not insulting the sensitivity of superior humans should surely be considered before you continue with your misguided notion of having freedom of expression.

10 05 2010
Aafke-Art

Aicha, welcome to my blog.
You didn’t read the post. It’s muslims who made the paintings on this post, and they have been at it since more than a thousand years.
I just wanted to point out that maybe some muslims have invented a rule that specifically Mohammed is not to be painted, but other Muslims think different.
So really no muslims have the right to object to other people in the world if they depict Mohammed.
Also I think many hadith, however authentic they are claimed to be, are unproven, and often seem to me to be an attempt to ”improve” on the Quran, as they are often in opposition to what the Quran teaches. So, no, I do not take the hadith as more important as the Quran,the perfect book for all times. If something was that haram, calling for death and blood and vengeance, then it would have been mentioned there. To claim anything else is bidah. And as the Quran does not forbid painting living creatures I do not see the problem.

Don’t you think it is very arrogant of you to pop by my blog one single time and then consider yourself important enough to start telling me what I should do on my own blog?

And do you really think that removing these Muslim art-works from my post is going to make these paintings dissapear? They won’t. They exist, and as long as no insane wahabbi/salafi religious nutter get their claws on them they will be existing for hundreds of years more.

i have no intention of removing these pictures. Not because one confused, selfish, arrogant visitor thinks I should do so. Not because while some Muslims like them, others may be ”offended”, because they worship an idol. Not because falsefying history and pretending these paintings haven’t been made for over a thousand years isn’t really going to work and it’s evil to begin with.

MoQ, The ”sensitivity” of muslims while crying out for murder and blood can go you know where.
๐Ÿ˜‰

10 05 2010
UmmSamyrah

Hi Aafke,

I am a little confused as to what your beliefs are (not that it matters to me) but out of fareness you should make it clear so that people understand where you stand. I ll tell you why I say that.

In one post titled How old was Acia, I personally really enjoyed that post and I automatically assumed (which was wrong on my part) that you where Muslimah, However, after reading some of your older and newer post I started to become very confused as to who this blogger is and what she/he really stands for. You say you only agree with the Qurah but with one ayat I can prove to you that you do not even truly believe in just the quran. I hope for your sake you are not taking from the religion and leaving off what you dislike as that is a plan error on any Muslims part.

[3:31] Proclaim: “If you love GOD, you should follow me.” GOD will then love you, and forgive your sins. GOD is Forgiver, Most Merciful.

31. Say: “If ye do love Allah, Follow me: Allah will love you and forgive you your sins: For Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.”

[ู‚ูู„ู’ ุฅูู† ูƒูู†ุชูู…ู’ ุชูุญูุจู‘ููˆู†ูŽ ุงู„ู„ู‘ูŽู‡ูŽ ููŽุงุชู‘ูŽุจูุนููˆู†ูู‰ ูŠูุญู’ุจูุจู’ูƒูู…ู ุงู„ู„ู‘ูŽู‡ู ูˆูŽูŠูŽุบู’ููุฑู’ ู„ูŽูƒูู…ู’ ุฐูู†ููˆุจูŽูƒูู…ู’ ูˆูŽุงู„ู„ู‘ูŽู‡ู ุบูŽูููˆุฑูŒ ุฑู‘ูŽุญููŠู…ูŒ – ู‚ูู„ู’ ุฃูŽุทููŠุนููˆุงู’ ุงู„ู„ู‘ูŽู‡ูŽ ูˆูŽุงู„ุฑู‘ูŽุณููˆู„ูŽ ูุฅูู† ุชูŽูˆูŽู„ู‘ูŽูˆู’ุงู’ ููŽุฅูู†ู‘ูŽ ุงู„ู„ู‘ูŽู‡ูŽ ู„ุงูŽ ูŠูุญูุจู‘ู ุงู„ู’ูƒูŽู€ููุฑููŠู†ูŽ ]

(31. Say (O Muhammad to mankind): “If you (really) love Allah, then follow me (i.e. Muhammad), Allah will love you and forgive you your sins. And Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.”) (32. Say: “Obey Allah and the Messenger.” But if they turn away, then Allah does not like the disbelievers.)

Allah’s Love is Attained by Following the Messenger

This honorable Ayah judges against those who claim to love Allah, yet do not follow the way of Muhammad . Such people are not true in their claim until they follow the Shari`ah (Law) of Muhammad and his religion in all his statements, actions and conditions. It is recorded in the Sahih that the Messenger of Allah said,

ยซู…ูŽู†ู’ ุนูŽู…ูู„ูŽ ุนูŽู…ูŽู„ู‹ุง ู„ูŽูŠู’ุณูŽ ุนูŽู„ูŽูŠู’ู‡ู ุฃูŽู…ู’ุฑูู†ูŽุง ููŽู‡ููˆูŽ ุฑูŽุฏยป

(Whoever commits an act that does not conform with our matter (religion), then it will be rejected of him.)

This is why Allah said here,

[ู‚ูู„ู’ ุฅูู† ูƒูู†ุชูู…ู’ ุชูุญูุจู‘ููˆู†ูŽ ุงู„ู„ู‘ูŽู‡ูŽ ููŽุงุชู‘ูŽุจูุนููˆู†ูู‰ ูŠูุญู’ุจูุจู’ูƒูู…ู ุงู„ู„ู‘ูŽู‡ู]

(Say (O Muhammad to mankind): “If you (really) love Allah, then follow me, Allah will love you…”) meaning, what you will earn is much more than what you sought in loving Him, for Allah will love you. Al-Hasan Al-Basri and several scholars among the Salaf commented, “Some people claimed that they love Allah. So Allah tested them with this Ayah;

[ู‚ูู„ู’ ุฅูู† ูƒูู†ุชูู…ู’ ุชูุญูุจู‘ููˆู†ูŽ ุงู„ู„ู‘ูŽู‡ูŽ ููŽุงุชู‘ูŽุจูุนููˆู†ูู‰ ูŠูุญู’ุจูุจู’ูƒูู…ู ุงู„ู„ู‘ูŽู‡ู]

(Say (O Muhammad to mankind): “If you (really) love Allah, then follow me, Allah will love you…”). ”

Allah then said,

[ูˆูŽูŠูŽุบู’ููุฑู’ ู„ูŽูƒูู…ู’ ุฐูู†ููˆุจูŽูƒูู…ู’ ูˆูŽุงู„ู„ู‘ูŽู‡ู ุบูŽูููˆุฑูŒ ุฑู‘ูŽุญููŠู…ูŒ]

(“And forgive you your sins. And Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.”) meaning, by your following the Messenger , you will earn all this with the blessing of his mission. Allah next commands everyone,

[ู‚ูู„ู’ ุฃูŽุทููŠุนููˆุงู’ ุงู„ู„ู‘ูŽู‡ูŽ ูˆูŽุงู„ุฑู‘ูŽุณููˆู„ูŽ ูุฅูู† ุชูŽูˆูŽู„ู‘ูŽูˆู’ุงู’]

(Say: “Obey Allah and the Messenger.” But if they turn away) by defying the Prophet ,

[ููŽุฅูู†ู‘ูŽ ุงู„ู„ู‘ูŽู‡ูŽ ู„ุงูŽ ูŠูุญูุจู‘ู ุงู„ู’ูƒูŽู€ููุฑููŠู†ูŽ

(then Allah does not like the disbelievers.) thus, testifying that defiance of the Messenger’s way constitutes Kufr. Indeed, Allah does not like whoever does this, even if he claims that he loves Allah and seeks a means of approach to Him, unless, and until, he follows the unlettered Prophet, the Final Messenger from Allah to the two creations: mankind and the Jinn. This is the Prophet who, if the previous Prophets and mighty Messengers were to have been alive during his time, they would have no choice but to follow, obey him, and to abide by his Law. We will mention this fact when we explain the Ayah,

UmmSamyrah

13 05 2010
Aicha

I actually read your post. I think it is you who didn’t read my response.
I realize there have been muslims who depicted the prophet’s figure. As I said, muslims are human beings subject to error where as Islam itself is the perfect religion. I know tons of muslim who drink alcohol. However that is not the teaching of Islam. I have every right to tell those people that they shouldn’t. Because you know why? Islam is a religion of nasihah, or advice. If you see people sinning, you can’t just pass by, pretend you didn’t see. We are obligated to give them a sincere advice.
So I fully object what you said above:

What I did in my previous comment was supposed to be a nasihah also.
I didn’t mean to disturb you or anything. I didn’t want to be rude, but I was just hoping you will see my point.
I don’t even know you are muslim. Like sister Umm Samyrah, you got me confused on your stand. You seem to know a little bit about Islam but it doesn’t seem that you really believe. At all. Which is kinda sad, because I thought you were muslim when I read a post about how to make abayah.

There are hadiths that are weak and not worth regarding. But there ARE authentic hadiths we should refer to in every occasion. Because as I said, Quran doesn’t give us every single details of what we should do in daily life.
For example, it’s not written in the Quran how we should perform the prayer exactly. So if you ONLY follow the Quran and disregard the Sunnah of the Prophet, you can’t even perform your 5 daily ritual prayers. How do we know what is Sunnah? From authentic hadiths.

No single muslim would say a hadith is more important than the Quran. Never.
Hadiths elaborate, explains in details on what Allah dictates in His Book and it adds specific rulings which help us guide in our daily lives.
We just have to be careful if it is authentic or actually weak.
Regarding drawing pictures, there’s tons of authentic hadiths which creally forbid us from doing so.
Here’s one of the most famous one from Al-Bukhari:
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Narrated Said bin Abu Al-Hasan:

While I was with Ibn ‘Abbas a man came and said, “O father of ‘Abbas! My sustenance is from my manual profession and I make these pictures.” Ibn ‘Abbas said, “I will tell you only what I heard from Allah’s Apostle . I heard him saying, ‘Whoever makes a picture will be punished by Allah till he puts life in it, and he will never be able to put life in it.’ ” Hearing this, that man heaved a sigh and his face turned pale. Ibn ‘Abbas said to him, “What a pity! If you insist on making pictures I advise you to make pictures of trees and any other unanimated objects.”
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It took Al-Bukhari 16 years to compile his hadiths collection. He did Ghusul and Salat al-Istikhara for every single hadith if he should take it or not.
It’s regarded one of the most authentic hadiths that exist in the world.

Sorry for the long comment. Please don’t take this personally. If you have more to say, I’d love to hear.
Remember, Islam is perfect, it’s complete by God. It’s the human who make mistake. That’s why we should constantly strive to know the truths.

13 05 2010
MoQ

“I have every right to tell those people that they shouldnโ€™t. Because you know why? Islam is a religion of nasihah, or advice”

I think we have a 4 letter word for that without using long sentences.

Nosy!!!

19 05 2010
Karl Kraut

That “Portrait of Mohammed, modern”, it is NOT a portrait of Mohammed: it is a portrait of Imam Ali!

(https://clouddragon.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/m-33-modern1.jpg)

Learn here:

Enjoy:
Guzel Pirim sana bin canim kurban – Yandimda Geldim:

SaNaLMeQaN.CoM-Gรถkรงe Hem ร‡alฤฑyor Hem Sรถylรผyor Yorumu Harika

19 05 2010
Aafke-Art

Karl Kraut thank you for amending, and welcome to my blog.
Beautiful song, fascinating melody, thanks for sharing.

Everybody, there are more songs from this artist, click the images on the bottom of the screen at the end.

19 05 2010
Achelois

Aafke, Susanne shared this news with me:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100519/ap_on_hi_te/as_pakistan_facebook

Pakistan bans Facebook over Draw Muhammad Day!

19 05 2010
Aafke-Art

Achelois, thank you. I will of course participate and make a drawing of mohammed myself. In the centuries old tradition of the Muslims themselves.

19 05 2010
I morgen er det store tegnedag. « Hodjas Blog

[…] on Facebook, this: Fuck the organizers of draw Mohammed day. May they BURN IN HELL (INSHALLAH)Your bodies will burn in fire in your graves and then in hell. […]

20 05 2010
D. G. Neree

Nice pictures! please don’t listen to people crying fake tears over the depictions of M. and then sobbingly ask you to remove them. If these kind and sensitive people have their way, there will be no more pictures or music or free writing AT ALL in this world, as we can see in the countries where this ideology rules.

Hail to the artists and poets of this world (like most of the writers of sacred books were), and away with fanatical dogmatism.

20 05 2010
Rhysz

Clouddragon is an Aafke-ist a way of life firmly dedicated to tormenting her little brother. I’m trying to read through some of the longer posts in this thread.

regards,
Rhysz

22 05 2010
Mohammad musa

God loves all mankind God has created the world coz he wanted to creat the humans inside blive those who not blive that domsday is near God will make alive all of his creatures again and all humankind will be alive agian and the sins will not have any remidy pary for God and let him do his grace on you .
have you ever thought why Dose God created you ?
Yes/NO

becauze he wanted to know how his creatures mankind will behave with eachothers and how they will indure and tolerate the difficalties.

do not let any body to put blame on ISLAM holy relagioun we know to day all terorist attacks,kidnapings,killing &100 thousand of actions being done by most Mohter Fucker Pakistanian and Iranian people we can,t call them ISLAM at all.
ISLAM is a holy relagioun like pure honey.
MUSLIM is the one who allowed to use this pure honey and knows how much it costs.

terorist people do not know they are agents of ENGLAND and they want to put the blame on Amarican peopel.

the only one who is spporting Terorist is England they want to show Amarican Armay weak.

22 05 2010
Mohammad musa

Don’t let any one to Abuse ISLAM

22 05 2010
Mohammad musa

It dosn’t makes sence the one who makes Mohammad P.U.H pictures he will see the result very soon .
But some Pakistanian Iranian wants to provoke the people to fight each others coz they are the agent of these two coutries mentioned above.

22 05 2010
Aafke-Art

DG Neree., thank you for your nice comment.

Rhysz, reading is hard work… I know… You should practise more! :mrgreen:

Mohammed Musa, I don’t believe there is an invisible sky-daddy who created me. so the answer is moot.
And what do you want with that silly rant? This is not a political blog.

Why should Islam not be abused? Other religions are abused too. Life’s a bitch. Deal with it or bury yourself in some remote area where you don’t get confronted with other people’s opinions.

The artists who made these Mohammed pictures died many hundred years ago. What point the threats?
What about Pakistanis and Iranians? What are you going on about???
No please don’t answer, I like intelligent conversation on my blog, not the rantings of a diseased mind eaten away by the religious virus.

22 05 2010
Rhysz

LULZ
“becauze he wanted to know how his creatures mankind will behave with eachothers and how they will indure and tolerate the difficalties.”

So god is a sadistic voyeur? Creating us for the sole purpose of watching us experience the horrors of the planet we occupy and the ones we inflict on each other? This God neither seems to love nor care if you ask me.

It’s Pakistani BTW. I think it’s common knowledge the England’s masterplan is to steal all the Dutch cheese anyway!

Thanks for the lolz,
Rhysz

31 05 2010
Idris Mohammed

Who ever did this please remove this and definitely he will be punished by ALLAH

31 05 2010
Aafke-Art

If I am going to be punished if I remove this then I better not do it…

31 05 2010
Reason over Religion

Very nice collection. It is funny how we are to denie these many pictures, painted hundreds of years ago as well as modern ones.
If you don’t talk about it or show it, it doesn’t exist.
That is why archeological sites are destroyed in saudi. So nobody has proof of another past as what they want to teach you.

29 12 2010
Abdul-Razzak Khattat

To my knowledge, the four sects of Islam; Hanafi, Shfi’y, Hanbali and Maliki prohibit the depiction not only of Prophit Mohammed or Imam Ali and thier decendants(Ahlul Bayt), But all human beings for fear that such pictures or statues will be worshipped istead of the only One God. The Shiaa group specifically the Persians ,from the Buwayhies, and Safawies untill the present time allow such depictions. I only have one question, who has seen Mohammed, or Ali or even Vergin Mary or Jesus Christ to draw his or her picture?

21 04 2011
abdul -ali- bin -ukri

this is written by a jew as u know jews dont like muslims so they make a website insulting the religion islam the religion islam is true it proofs it by the kabba but no one has the picture of the prophet from his time so this pictures are made up or its true if u look at the dates they were after the prophets time why dont give the exact time as they do in different art i am a strong muslim i belief that theres only one god and mohammed its his prophet who ever done this allah is looking at them therefore they will get punished on judjement day

21 04 2011
abdul -ali- bin -ukri

it is true who has ever seen christ or vigirn mary mohammed and ali to draw their picture they draw jesus with blod hair and blue eyes where jesus is from dont have that skin colour and draw mohammed splitting the moon and draw mary with different hair as jesus and draw ali looking short dis is fake because mohammed wasn,t dancing with pretty women in heave it is made u got unloked who ever don is going to hell fire and may allah ground the from jannat

27 09 2011
Mohammad arif

Jews n christians are our bitter enemy that is why we are wiping them there presence in our countries is like of swines

3 10 2011
Aafke-Art

Thank you for sharing. Always nice to hear it straight from the horse’s mouth…

26 12 2011
mubaraka

I DON’T THINK IT WAS NECESSARY TO PUT PROPHET MUHAMAD’S PHOTO WITH PRETTY LADIES BECAUSE NO ONE HAS VISTED HEAVEN TO SEE HIM BECAUSE THE JUDGEMENT DAY IS NOT

26 12 2011
Aafke-Art

It’s not a photo, it’s a painting made by Muslims. If you don’t like it I suggest you take it up with them.
And don’t write in capitals, it’s rude, and the next comment in capitals will be trashed.

11 07 2012
Huda

Finding pictures depicting or supposedly depicting the Prophet Muhammad is not a significant feat. Muslim scholars acknowledge their existence, that’s why the rulings exist in the first place. Any Muslim who bothers to look into Islamic history or art will most likely be aware of such drawings. That does not mean the practicing Muslim will suddenly become dumfounded or confused, because what one or two or even 1000 human beings do, does not affect what Islam allows and does not allow. Besides, who drew these pictures? Do you know their backgrounds? They may not be Muslim artists, they may be Muslims who are ignorant of the teachings of Islam, or they may, as Abdul-Razzak Khattat pointed out above, be created by people who belong to a certain “sect” who believe that depicting the Prophet Muhammad is acceptable.

24 09 2012
Ibdowaliyow

The prophet Mohammad (S.A.W) knew the presence of depicters, artists and drawers. He knew sooner or later they will depict his image for whatever reason and they can be from the believers of any religion (Muslims, Christians, Jews…) or can be even a pagan, religionless. Depicting the prophet is NOT allowed simply because of fear of shallow minded individuals to use it inapporpriately i.e confusing God/Allah with a painting of his prophet and the prophet simply didn’t like that to happen after his death. I know there are those out there who claim to be Muslims (let alone Christian, Jews and even worse Pagans), believe depicting the prophet is alright for whatever reason they give like, what was that term they used, (freedom of whatever…) but they just simply DON’T get it and it ok because Allah said: “You will never give up having different opposite opinions except for those who your Creator has mercy on, AND that is how we created them…” But at the end of the day, what will their paitings and drawings do to the prophet or Islam? Nothing, it is just a mere painting and drawing from a disbeliever or a confused Muslim-like individual and they will pay the price of breaking a rule in this universe or hereafter.
AND
for those who don’t believe in a Creator or God/Allah like Mr. Blog owner: My friend, think critically and very hard and use common sense. I don’t think you will disagree with me on this statement, “nothing comes out of nothing” do you agree to that statement? ofcourse you agree with it! In this case, how can you denounce that you were created by someone, Allah/God? How can you be from out of nothing without being created? I know you are the son/daughter of a father and a mother but how did the idea of being a son or a daughter came into exsistence? popped up? Common sense! you were created by someone AND that someone is Allah and you have to surrender yourself to him for your own benefit through Islam and prophet Mohammed (S.A.W) and I pray for you and those like you as well!

24 09 2012
Aafke-Art

What do you mean ”even” pagans? religionless? Pagans believe in gods as well. Probably many more than you do.
And FYI, I only show images which were painted by Muslims. I put them up to illustrate the fact that in the past Muslims weren’t as idiotic as they are now.
And you are right. What harm can a depiction of Mohammed do… nothing. So why all this insanity? It’s too stupid!
And why should other people, who don’t believe in your myths and superstitions, not draw Mohammed? There’s nothing to stop them. You can decide for yourself what you can and cannot draw, fine, but you cannot decide for other people.

That is un-acceptable bullying.

If you don’t like it: bad luck. Life sucks. Deal with it by yourself.

Actually I do think critically, that’s why I don’t believe in superstitions, especially not the ones made up by illiterate primitive,misogynist, immoral, archaic, desert dwellers. I mean Judaism and the two sects it spawned, Christianity and Islam.

I refuse to get into the infantile ”nothing comes from nothing” discussion. I just can’t do it. It’s sรณ stupid, I refuse to bow down to that sub level. I admire the people who are willing to do it, but I am not one of them.

2 06 2015
Homo Sapien

“…how did the idea of being a son or a daughter came into exsistence? popped up?”. It’s called “Science”, my friend. I don’t need to believe in an imaginary being “creating” me to come up with the idea of reproduction. ๐Ÿ™‚

25 09 2012
Ibdowaliyow

infantile discussion?! Oh boy! you are looking for an escape route from the truth and trying to play smart-dumb game, huh?

Good luck:)

13 04 2013
ABDUS SAKUR

THIS IS HARAM PEOPLE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO DRAW OR PAINT PICTURES OF PROPHET MUHAMMAD (PEACE BE UPON HIM)… IT IS FORBIDDEN IN ISLAM… IF YOU DO IT YOU WILL BE PUNISHED IN HELL FIRE…

20 05 2013
Aafke-Art

And yet people, including Muslims, have been doing so for centuries. Who are you to order other people around? You can decide for yourself not to paint or draw Mohammed. But you can’t tell anybody else to do so. After all, Mohammed was just a man.

2 06 2015
Homo Sapien

Yeah, it is forbidden in Islam, but if I don’t follow Islam and am not a Muslim, how is it Haram to me? I don’t believe in your religion (or any religion), right? And also don’t believe in hell, so how am I going to burn in it if I don’t believe in it? ๐Ÿ™‚

18 07 2013
Fahad

PAINTING PICTURES OF PROPHET MUHAMMAD (PEACE BE UPON HIM) IS STRICTLY FORBIDDEN IN ISLAM.
PLEASE REMOVE ALL SUCH PICTURES.

18 07 2013
Aafke-Art

Writing in capitals is rude, next time the comment will be edited.
No I won’t remove them. These Islamic paintings exist, and have existed since a long time so why should I remove them from a blog? And I am not Muslim. What is restricted for you has no meaning for me. And you have no right to tell me what I can or cannot do. I am my own master.

8 09 2013
aisha

oh disbeliever it is much more rude if we do not respect prophet mohammed pbuh, it is mentioned that in the quran all disbeleivers of islam who are opposed to god’s(ALLAH) word shall be suffering in eternal hell fire!YOU may be living good now and you may be doing what you want but you cannot say anything on that day. these are not my words these are true words of god.
but god is the most merciful and forgiving ,you still have time til death to seek for forgiveness .and take of those DAMN pictures which YOU put. and EVERYONE HAS THE RIGHT TO TELL WHATS RIGHT AND WRONG AND TO CORRECT MISTAKES AND NOT TO REPEAT THEM.
AND ISLAM DOES NOT FORCE ANYONE IT IS UP TO THE PEOPLE TO CHOOSE THEIR PATH !
EITHER ETERNAL PARADISE (ALLAH’S WAY)
OR
ETERNAL HELL FIRE(DEVIL’S WAY)
this world is a test with limited happiness
may god guide you to the right path and save you from hell fire and destroy all these pictures
thank you ๐Ÿ™‚

8 09 2013
ahmed

RE: Writing in capitals is rude, next time the comment will be edited.
No I wonโ€™t remove them. These Islamic paintings exist, and have existed since a long time so why should I remove them from a blog? And I am not Muslim. What is restricted for you has no meaning for me. And you have no right to tell me what I can or cannot do. I am my own master.

same goes for you what you are writing is meaningless, you are like “i do what i want” if you get an awful uncurable disease can you stop it -.-
no,;) you can’t which clearly tells us that your not you own master and that you are not superior than god ;D
god will protect what’s good and punish the stupid meaningless stubborn fool unless if he is forgiven(the fool)

12 01 2014
anonymous

Hi there, I was wondering if I could borrow some images from your site for a book I’m writing?

19 01 2014
Aafke-Art

That depends, which images you want to use

8 03 2014
ูŠูƒููŠ ูˆุฌูˆุฏูƒ

that is not the prophet Muhammad in the picture, so it is not a drawing of the prophet muhhamed!! but someone trying to draw his picture hundred of years after he died in shia iran or in europe, so that is an insult. you are trying to draw the prophets wifes! you have no right to (try) to draw anyones wifes!!!!!! trying to draw a picture that the prophet cut the moon with fire coming out of his head?, another with him on a horse and the horse has a face of a girl?!!! and you say why we get angry? you think these are normal pictures?why what’s the point? this is not education this is not learning anything, and we are not supposed to put images of the creater(god) and compare him to the creation, there is nothing compared to god, their are thing’s a human being cannot imagine, for example if me and you were on a ship and this ship is moving by itself and in a perfectly degree angle with a perfect gravity holding it in place so it does not fall and water and food is in this ship for you to live and the question would be who is moving this ship to think and not painting imaginary picture’s that you dont know how he look’s, the human brain will have a hard time to see the wavelength of the 60,000-Hz how much you close your eye and try to imagine it will have a hard time to imagine the same with the sound vibration of 500000-10000000(500khz-10mhz) per second untill you sit down and study it mathematically and scientific you will know what it is but NOTSEE IT! we are not supposed to be putting image’s of the prophets of god, including Muhammad, Jesus, moses,Ibrahim..ect…ect..(peace and blessings of allah be upon them), so people will not worship them, just like what happened with the jew’s and the christians, shia’s, and most other religions who worship the created or put partners with god, but actually worship who jesus worshiped , who moses worshiped, who Muhammad worshiped and they all worshiped allah, the prophet’s are the best human-being’s their is no one like them of humans and you must not compare to them anyone of us nor put imaginary pictures of them because it is not them

9 03 2014
Aafke-Art

Very long comment….
Read the other comments on this thread.
You may make rules for yourself and keep to them, but you have no right to tell other people what hey can and cannot do. If you have a problem with what other people do you will just have to take it like a man and live with it.

As for me, I am an artist so drawing other people’s wives and husbands and dogs and horses and cats is my job.
And why not.
Actually, I have to. It would be a sin to squander my god-given talent not to do it.

15 07 2014
sarah

Now, HOW THE HELL does someone know what the Prophet (SAW) looked like?? This is history from a thousand years ago and no one drew what He (SAW) looked like then. It’s disgusting to see that people think they can do this. And WHERE does it say anywhere that there were women in heaven with the Prophet (SAW)??? And in addition to that, these women look like they are pleasing a man with their sexuality, so it is a horrible depiction. I thought most Muslims knew better than that.
Also, Angel Jibrail is made of light, so how can someone interpret him as a man with the wings of a bird??
The Prophet (SAW) never had any drawings of him done because He (SAW) wanted his followers to only worship Allah (SWT). The pictures of Jesus (AS) are also just depicted, but the outcome is that Christians praise Jesus more than God.
I believe that no one could ever describe the Prophet (SAW) as it is said that one of his companions remarked that He (SAW) was brighter than the moon.

As for Draw Muhammad day or whatever it was, people wasted their time doing something that is not permitted in Islam. If this is some of your own work it is pretty weak. It is Haraam to draw human faces in order to get fame or money from them (in case you didn’t know). Your excuse of using “god-given talent” is pretty stupid too.

People are saying u should go to Hell for doing this and they do not realize that they have no right to say that to another human because only Allah (SWT) knows. You should, however, take those pics down as it gives non-muslims the wrong idea.

17 12 2014
Jkice

Agree, “most of the stories are from a thousand years ago”Going by the same logic, how does one know what is written in the Holy Books is actually what the Gods or the Prophets told

2 06 2015
Homo Sapien

Nice. You use short forms like SAW and SWT and whatever else. You can write a huge comment lecturing others about a religion they don’t even follow but take a short cut when it comes to addressing your own “God”. Lol.

3 06 2015
A Lot Of ๐Ÿ˜‰ One Is the Mohammed

It’s not forbidden.
It’s impossible !!!

A Photo of a Person says NOTHING about who/how this Person really is !!!

15 07 2014
sarah

Why did you waste your time doing something that has nothing to do with you? If you are not Muslim then it even more stupid of you to do this then defend it.

3 06 2015
A Lot Of ๐Ÿ˜‰ One Is the Mohammed

I don’t know if you wrote this
(Why did you waste your time doing something that has nothing to do with you? If you are not Muslim then it even more stupid of you to do this then defend it.)
as a reply to my writtings?

If it is so, I want let you know:
The one who has build all !
is LOVE !
(Love is not sex !!!!!!!)

And for ME All ah is Love !
And all Prophets – who have really exist – are one = Love.

You can draw uncountable Pictures auf Love – you never can fix it only in one Picture !!

When ever I have seen a Kor an, I SEE that this Book is made of Love !!!
(the details, the ornaments, the writting… everything is done with Love!)

And if one Person do ALL with Love, this Person will allways be good = will be God .
If ALL Persons are so we have “garden of Eden” ON EARTH !
For me it is our goal – our heaven !

###

Beside other Languages I can read Arabic and English
And English for me it’s the speak of Angels.
And so I read in the Arabic-subscription of the Picture called
“Portrait of Imam Ali, modern”
โžก๏ธ All !! gw ! Love All
โžก๏ธ All !! go with Love – ALL

You have only to look at the yellow BOLD writing
Can you read this, too?

If someone loves to know the truth,
then I can tell you HIS-STORY,
because it is my Story.

I m Love
I m all !
If you read correctly the original Kor-an (written in Arabic) you will find my old Signature (written in Angelish=English) !
If you really want to find my old Signature, you only have to look at the short red writing – AND READ IT DOWNSIDE-UP

And the Arabic-writing it’s not only text – it is the old writting of music
AND when the time has come that the human has learnt to listen to the telling of the Good=God / learnt to listen to the telling of their ๐Ÿ’• than all will be able to listen to
THE Choir of Angels
THE Cor-An

Have a nice Life full of Love.

And there for you shout know, only the body dies, but your soul every-time comes back in a new body on earth.
If you have a daydream (Dejavue), it is a remembering of a passed life.

Never waste your life,
Do everything with Love

13 01 2015
Vsceptic

Did every human whoever lived before either Jesus or Mohammed go to hellfire and is God so cruel he sends people to hellfire who have never been told of Jesus or Mohammed? Is god so weak that he would suffer terrible damage if people draw a picture of his prophet? Does a God so powerful that he created the whole Universe really need these people to defend him? It is all such arrant nonsense.

13 01 2015
Aafke-Art

I think you are using logic and rationality while thinking this over.
This is a mistake. You need to switch those capacities off when following religion.

22 07 2015
Farouq Omaro

Thanks for the pictures. My grandfather was once in possession of some of these pictures. Too bad Salafis/Wahabbis have hijacked the religion. I long for the day when Muslims openly put these pictures up in their houses, drank alcohol openly yet never fail to attend prayers at the mosque, or when the only time Muslim girls covered their head was when praying or attending funerals and when Muslims had dinner in non-Muslim houses without questioning the Halal-ness of the food. Those days are gone, it is so sad. Anyway thanks again. You evoked a nostalgia

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