Viagra: YES, Birthcontrol: NO

16 09 2008

Well, well, I am só a-political, but the American elections, fake-democracy as they are, just keep popping up with amusing little details. Or they would be amusing if they didn’t promise huge suffering for many people.
Like his running-mate Palin, McCain is pro-life, and manages to combine that seemlessly with pro-war. This might seem a contradiction to you.
But I do see the logic in that: Fighting a ”clean war” will eventually end up in several thousands dead soldiers. And as war is business, and many people don’t even want it to end soon, more soldiers are needed in the future. So by making sure that as many men can get it up, and no women get to choose what happens to their bodies and futures, Viagra is covered by healthinsurance, and Birthcontrol isn’t. Combine that with refusing women a choice on abortion, even when raped, and they can surely count on a new crop of cannonfodder soldiers in the future.
Anyway, amuse yourselves with this one, before this one too is mysteriously ”unavailable” on YouTube.

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31 responses

16 09 2008
Colloquielle

Well, just in case that (hysterical) video does disappear, I’ve downloaded it for posterity 😉 Gotta love Rachel, and I’m so glad she got her own show – but like Keith points out in his blog on Daily Kos, he now has to find a new co-host 😉

16 09 2008
Marahm

Amazing clip. I hadn’t seen it before. I actually felt sorry for the poor man.

I think the terms “pro-choice” and “pro-life” need to be changed. Taken together, they imply that a fetus is aleady a person with the right to be born. Many people believe this, and many more people believe this with regard to a well-developed fetus.

However, what are we to make of a fetus who has been diagnosed with a severe birth defect, or a fetus that arises from an act of rape? Are we to regard the potential to be born equal to the state of already having been born?

I am not advocating a stance here, but suggesting that the terms for the two positions be changed to reflect the legitimate question of whether the potential for something is equal in character to the actuality of it.

How about “pro-management” and “pro-force”?

Considering the murky territory in which each concept dwells, the (false) accusation against Obama that he wants to teach sex education to children doesn’t sound like a bad idea. By the time these kids become policy makers, the entire reproductive controversy could be put to rest. Birth control could become a mainstay of insurance coverage, much like routine dental exams or diagnostic procedures.

16 09 2008
Colloquielle

Branding is what the Republicans are all about, though, Marahm. By calling it “pro-life” they force those who support a woman’s right to choose into a semantic position of being somehow “anti” life – even those who support abortion only where the woman’s life would be in danger if she carried the pregnancy to term. It’s what they do best. By saying it often and loud enough, the public gets used to it. “Pro-life” doesn’t mean they support life any more than someone who supports the right to choose.

Far too often, American elections are decided on the basis of soundbites.

16 09 2008
Aafke

Oh, I don’t know, what’s in a word? for example, pro-life is just as pro-life when you have an abortion after rape.
So abortion is also pro-life.
For the victim; it’s pro-her-life.
Supporting war can not be called ”pro-life” in any construct.

16 09 2008
Colloquielle

Extreme conservatives would deny that an abortion – even to save the mother’s life – could ever be called a pro-life stance, though.

16 09 2008
Colloquielle

(Women’s lives being secondary to that of the foetus, or the father.. or pretty much anything else, really!)

16 09 2008
jamesviscosi

Please, won’t someone think of the horny old men who can’t get it up anymore?

16 09 2008
Rhysz

If these people were really ‘pro-life’ they should go ahead and block graveyards!

I rest my cheese.

Regards,

Rhysz

16 09 2008
Rhysz

OOPS,

@jamesviscosi

You’re right! why shouldn’t MEN have controll over their own bodies…….?
We have an enormous amount of pressure to ‘put out’ too. I say VIAGRA ánd BIRTHCONTROL for everyone!!!!!

Kind Regards,

Rhysz

16 09 2008
Colloquielle

“We have an enormous amount of pressure to ‘put out’ too.”

There isn’t enough LOL.

16 09 2008
Aafke

There are so many threads to take from this post, so many intellectual subjects to approach, and the only one you guys can concentrate on is the right to get it up???? 🙄
Amusing video Rhysz 🙂
Thanks Marahm for being an intelligent commentor.

16 09 2008
Marahm

You are welcome! And thanks, guys, for giving me a laugh when intelligence gives me a headache! 🙂

16 09 2008
Achelois

Rhysz is making sense you know 😉

Aafke, Have you ever thought how HARD it must be for a man to try and get it up and he can’t? They have the onus of having an erection and planting their seeds. Their loins are on fire but they can’t get it up! Shame on you Aafke for not understanding the plight of such men! 😉

No really WTF is this?! I also don’t commend Palin on choosing to have a baby who is sick. Who needs her all the time. Whose life she endangered once already when she was in early labour and she was travelling on 8-hour long flights making speeches. The baby whom she is willing to leave behind when she goes to office. That is shameful!

16 09 2008
Aafke

Ah Achelois, just said the same thing in answer to your comment on the other post. Is it nesseccary to talk? can’t we just keep the telepatic connection going?

The point about McCain is: it’s unfair to scrap birthcontrol off the medical insurance, while putting Viagra on it.

For those who don’t get the difference: Having a baby, after whatever happened, will have a major impact on a woman for the rest of her life 24 hours a day.

Having sex is, while quite amusing, (or so I’ve been told,) is still just fun lasting (for men) 2 to 3 minutes.

PS Some people doubt if the baby isn’t her daughters, but if it is hers she is the most irresponsible ”mother” ever! And she lied to the carrier: They don’t fly women in the last stages unless with a medical certificate.

16 09 2008
Marahm

She was probably quite pleased to find out the baby had Down Syndrome. She’d then be able to use him as a political statement. She knew she’d never have to change a single diaper, unless she so CHOSE. All she has to do is cuddle the cute little guy and kiss him on camera, and he’s fulfilled her need of him!

Now, what about his need of her?

16 09 2008
Colloquielle

I think it’s going way too far to suggest she would’ve been pleased that the baby had Down’s – I don’t think anyone would want that, for any child – but she’s proven with her comments about parents of special needs kids having “a friend” in the White House if McCain is elected that she’s not beyond using his existence as a political tool, as she has with her other kids (I’m thinking specifically of goinher reprehensible speech as she farewelled her son’s troop to Iraq once again linked Iraq to 9/11 – she’s either been living under a rock for seven years or she just doesn’t care that she’s lying).

17 09 2008
Aafke

We can be sure about one thing; Now she does have a down-syndrom-baby, she’s looking at the silver lining and playing this baby for all it’s worth.

17 09 2008
Dragon

…but viagra is used by all: men, women, lesbians and probably by animals too. So, I truly didn’t see what the fuss is all about.
Now, I once read a book on feminism talking about the political implications on how fellatio should be performed: No woman can truly call herself a feminist if she allows the male to control the motion of her lips on the great phallus…. which must remain static. that has been said. Now. I’ve other bigger and deeper issues with Sarah. In brief, I won’t put nothing mine in her hands or head. No.

17 09 2008
Marahm

Colloquielle is right. I went to far in saying that Palin was pleased that her baby had Down’s. However, I know about raising Down Syndrome kids; I have a step-daughter who has Down’s. These kids need ten times the amount of care, intellectual and physical stimulation, than ordinary kids. Even a stay-at-home mom has difficulty meeting all the needs of a Down’s child.

The nicest thing I can say about this situation is that little Trig will not be raised by his mom.

17 09 2008
Achelois

Marahm you are right. That last sentence is so poignant. The poor little baby will not get any “intellectual stimulation” from his mother!

I have always felt that mothers who decide to keep babies with special needs are not thinking long-term. Of course in the end its their call and who am I to say anything and that is why I have never written about it but I fear it is not fair to knowingly bring into this world a baby who may always struggle. This world is cruel and it is getting worse. There may be babies with severe Down’s and some with not so severe but they all have to struggle harder than babies who don’t have Down’s.

Someone we know who has a daughter with Down’s is asking her family who would take care of her when/if the mother dies. She is worried that even if she dies in old age she will need someone to look after her daughter. And it is true and painful. And it is not fair to expect people to look after someone. Similarly Palin is not being fair if she doesn’t look after Trig.

17 09 2008
susie of arabia

Hi Aafke! I love the sheer logic you presented in this post. You’re a genius.

17 09 2008
Aafke

Dragon, welcome to my blog, It is only a detail, but this post is about the detail of wanting viagra, which most people use for recreation, to be paid for by health-insurance, while McCain voted against birthcontrol, which I think is women’s right, to be paid for by health-insurance.

I don’t mind if viagra is being paid for by healthinsurance, but I think birthcontrol is a tad more important for women (and men) than viagra is for men. So birthcontrol should be first on the list of healthcare to be payed for by insurance, and viagra should be way below. And if you want to economise and take something off the list it should be viagra, not birthcontrol.

Marahm and Achelois: My greatest worry about special needs children is also what happens when the parents die. As the parents will be 20 to 40 years older, they probably will die first. This is really something that has always worried me very much, and I think all caring parents will be haunte by that problem as they grow old, while their child is still young and healthy.

17 09 2008
Colloquielle

I can’t even find a “stance” on special needs kids, because there is no black and white to it – on the one hand, yes, the parents most probably will die before the kids, and what happens then? But on the other.. the idea of maybe getting rid of a baby just because it has a defect makes me shudder.

But I guess it all comes down to personal choice, ultimately – I would never have an abortion, but I’d never be in a situation where I’d need to; if I were to wind up with an unplanned pregnancy (ha!) and was unable to support myself, I do have an incredibly supportive family I could turn to. Not everyone has that. So I guess it’s just one of those things that everyone has to decide for themselves.

That said.. yes, Trig is going to be raised by a succession of nannies (a job I’m only too familiar with). No, it’s not as good as being raised by his own Mum, but it’s not as bad as many alternatives. I don’t have a problem with her working so much that her child will be raised by others – that’s her decision, and her family’s, and theirs alone.

However, I DO have huge problems with Sarah Palin. To see her compared with Hillary Clinton, with whom she shares nothing more than the number of X chromosomes in her DNA, is offensive and nonsensical. Hillary has always been derided as “ambitious” – something that Republicans hate in a Democratic of the female persuasion – but at least with her ambition you knew what you were getting: someone who passionately believes in and wants to do what’s best for her country. Palin, on the other hand, has been scooped out of obscurity because she looks good in a skirt.

Her policies are sketchy – many made up on the spot (cf her stance on invading Georgia) – and her abuses of power during her career, culminating with her short tenure as Governor of Alaska, have been staggering. She has never set out, as Hillary has, to be President. But what’s worse, you get the feeling she never set out to be VP, either. This isn’t something she has been working towards – eight weeks ago, she wasn’t even sure what a VP did, and you know she wouldn’t have made that comment if she’d been on any short list at the time. This is knee jerk politics of such a cynical variety that it makes my blood boil. She was chosen by McCain – whose temper and decision making processes are notoriously short and not known for being governed by logic or reason – because she wears a skirt and is right wing. The inference that women will simply vote for her in Hillary’s absence from the ticket, because women are too stupid to recognise the completely polarised differences between the two, is horrifically offensive. Where Hillary fights for health care for all, Palin would ban sex education and family planning. Where Hillary fights for women’s rights, Palin would overturn Roe v Wade and ban abortion based on HER fundamental Christian beliefs. Where Hillary has made a long and successful career out of law, Palin studied journalism – sound bites. Hillary has masses of foreign policy experience and the wisdom and integrity to back that up with action. Palin “can see Russia from her house”. This McCain/Palin ticket was thrown together at the last minute, and has been studded with mistakes along the way because, in their arrogance, they don’t think that the American people can tell the difference.

Palin has snatched at this opportunity because she knows it won’t come again. That’s why she’s put it ahead of Trig and his special needs – she’s not a serious VP candidate, and this chance won’t be back in four years, so there’s no point her going off and being Governor for a while and maybe going overseas on a few holidays once in a while and getting a bit more expertise. It won’t be repeated. But frankly, I think the country (and the world) deserve someone who takes the job seriously enough to actually work for it – and who has enough faith in themselves to do the right thing. She’s not been offered this position because she’s the best person for the job, or she’s going to revamp the office of the VP or bring anything other than the same old cronyism and corruption that Bush and co have brought – she’s been offered it because she’s a woman. And if that’s the ONLY thing she’s got going for her (and right now, I think it is), then it isn’t enough. Women – all of us – should expect to fight for our positions on merit, not have things handed to us because of our gender. The reverse would have us hopping mad!

To expect Hillary’s supporters to vote for Palin simply because they share a gender is ridiculous.

Sorry for blogging in your comments section – that’s been bugging me since she was nominated!

17 09 2008
Colloquielle

Holy heck, I didn’t realise it was that long – sorry!!

17 09 2008
Aafke

ROTFL!!! I have too cook now, I’ll read your little comment after I’ve kicked my guests out!!!! Hahahaaa!

17 09 2008
Tony

Colloquielle said: “We have an enormous amount of pressure to ‘put out’ too.”

I say as a man: “We have an enormous amount of pleasure to ‘put out’ too.” 🙂

18 09 2008
Aafke

I still don’t feel sorry for you…

18 09 2008
Marahm

I do. I feel sorry for them, because while we women are having a lively conversation about vital issues of international concern, the men are still thinking about getting it up!

19 09 2008
Aafke

Marahm, you are the wiser woman, as always.
Besides, it’s Ramadan! We should be sweet to each other! I feel very sorry for you all, visiting blokes, but don’t worry, we still love you, even if we àre aware of your mental maturity. ❤

19 09 2008
Aafke

Colloquielle, I also can live with the fact that Trig would be raised by a succession of nanny’s, what I object to is Palin parading him and her motherhood about while not having any intention to actually be a mother and devoting her time to her children.

The reports we read on the media are incorrect; McCain has actually lost women’s support after choosing Palin as his runningmate.
I want to share this great comment By American Bedu:

*I received this from a friend in an email. The original source is not known but worth sharing here:

Subject: oh vey and double oh vey

I’m a little confused. Let me see if I have this straight…..

· If you grow up in Hawaii, raised by your grandparents, you’re “exotic, different.”
· Grow up in Alaska eating mooseburgers, a quintessential American story.
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· If your name is Barack you’re a radical, unpatriotic Muslim.
· Name your kids Willow, Trig and Track, you’re a maverick.
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· Graduate from Harvard law School and you are unstable.
· Attend 5 different small colleges before graduating, you’re well grounded.
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· If you spend 3 years as a brilliant community organizer, become the first black President of the Harvard Law Review, create a voter registration drive that registers 150,000 new voters, spend 12 years as a Constitutional Law professor, spend 8 years as a State Senator representing a district with over 750,000 people, become chairman of the state Senate’s Health and Human Services committee, spend 4 years in the United States Senate representing a state of 13 million people while sponsoring 131 bills and serving on the Foreign Affairs, Environment and Public Works and Veteran’s Affairs committees, you don’t have any real leadership experience.

· If your total resume is: local weather girl, 4 years on the city council and 6 years as the mayor of a town with less than 7,000 people, 20 months as the governor of a state with only 650,000 people, then you’re qualified to become the country’s second highest ranking executive.
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· If you have been married to the same woman for 19 years while raising 2 beautiful daughters, all within Protestant churches, you’re not a real Christian.

· If you cheated on your first wife with a rich heiress, and left your disfigured wife and married the heiress the next month, you’re a Christian.
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· If you teach responsible, age appropriate sex education, including the proper use of birth control, you are eroding the fiber of society.

· If , while governor, you staunchly advocate abstinence only, with no other option in sex education in your state’s school system while your unwed teen daughter ends up pregnant , you’re very responsible.
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· If your wife is a Harvard graduate lawyer who gave up a position in a prestigious law firm to work for the betterment of her inner city community, then gave that up to raise a family, your family’s values don’t represent America’s.

· If you’re husband is nicknamed “First Dude”, with at least one DWI conviction and no college education, who didn’t register to vote until age 25 and once was a member of a group that advocated the secession of Alaska from the USA, your family is extremely admirable.

OK, much clearer now.*

19 09 2008
Colloquielle

HAHAH! That is an AWESOME summary.

I must confess, I checked out Meghan McCain’s blog the other day and was impressed by her – she strikes me as being smarter than her Dad AND Palin, and I like the fact that she genuinely seems to admire Obama and recognise the historic nature of his campaign.

And I TOTALLY agree – the polls are showing that there’s been no bump of women’s support for McCain – but that doesn’t negate the fact that he named Palin as his running mate purely in order to try and produce such a bump! Nor does it stop his rationale from being nauseatingly offensive! The very idea is loathsome, but it’s exactly what he did!

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